From: Adam Scott Kennedy <adamscottkennedy@gmail.com>
Date: 2019-04-03 20:32
Subject: Re: [KENYABIRDSNET] Gulls in Kenya

Indeed. I have a strong feeling that this a returning bird Brian.

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> On 3 Apr 2019, at 20:17, Brian Finch <birdfinch@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Adam and Shailesh,
> This is weird, I was comparing your gull from several years back
> today, with the May 2018 and was thinking, this could actually be the
> same bird returning.  Gulls are creatures of habit, look at all the
> Ring-bills in UK. It's worth following up.
> 
> In answer to Shailesh's question Caspian, Steppe and Yellow-legged
> would all be new not just for East Africa, but all subsaharan Africa.
> With the new taxonomy we have lost nominate Lesser Black-backed Gull
> for Baltic Gull but until there are new studies, still have Lesser
> Black-backed in the form of Heuglin's.
> 
> Best for now
> Brian
> 
>> On 4/3/19, Shailesh Kumar Patel <honeyguide_sk@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Hi Adam,
>> Large gulls are difficult to id them if they look very similar to other
>> large gull. The photo you took the one in flight looks like a YLG and you
>> need to see how much black it is got from P10-P5.
>> Do you have Klaus Malling Olsen email address? And, if you do please send
>> your images to him. He will tell you what gull it is.
>> If the YLG is confirmed, is it going to be new for Kenya.
>> Shailesh
>> 
>>    On Wednesday, 3 April 2019, 18:34, Adam Scott Kennedy
>> <adamscottkennedy@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Brian, Shaliesh et al.,
>> Your 'Yellow-legged' Gull appears identical to my Naivasha gull Brian (from
>> 2013 I think?), so I wonder why the 'experts' did not suggest that my bird
>> was a YLG?
>> Can you see any visible difference from these images?
>> CheersAdam
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 08:23, Brian Finch birdfinch@gmail.com [kenyabirdsnet]
>> <kenyabirdsnet-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>> 
>>     Hi Shailesh,
>> Thanks for stressing that we take an interest in the large gulls we
>> see in East Africa. I currently have four nominate Caspian Gull
>> records in with the East African Rarities Committee awaiting
>> consideration, one Kenyan and three Ugandan. But also have another
>> half-dozen records to submit later that may involve Steppe and
>> Yellow-legged Gulls. For the people that went to see the Caspian Tern
>> at Lake Naivasha in May 2018, and saw a larger and paler-backed gull
>> with the Baltic (Lesser Black-backed Gulls) images of this bird have
>> been sent to Klaus Malling Olsen who authored the gull book you are
>> referring to, and his response was that this can only be a
>> Yellow-legged Gull!
>> Best for now
>> Brian
>> 
>> On 4/2/19, Shailesh Kumar Patel honeyguide_sk@yahoo.com
>> [kenyabirdsnet] <kenyabirdsnet-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>> Hello,There was anemail which Brian Finch wrote about the large gulls
>>> seen
>>> in Kenya. It isimportant to look at the gull species very carefully
>>> especially the large ones.Here in the UK, we the birders are always
>>> looking
>>> for rare or uncommon gull/swhich can either be with a flock of other gull
>>> species..There is nowa separate large gull species from the Lesser
>>> Black-backed Gull.Lesser Black-backed Gull Larus fuscus is now called
>>> Baltic
>>> Gull Larus fuscusLesser Black-backed Gull Larus(fuscus)
>>> intermedius/graellsii. Ssp. graellsii found in W.Europe, Iceland and
>>> Britain
>>> and hasslate-grey back.Is there any slighting of Heuglin’s Gull Larus.h.
>>> heuglini in Kenya?There is a bookon Gulls of the World A Photographic
>>> Guide
>>> by Klaus Malling Olsen.Shailesh
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