From: Birds <birdwatchingkenya@yahoo.com>
Date: 2013-11-24 14:00
Subject: Re: [KENYABIRDSNET] House Crows have reach Makindu
Thanks for your suggestion, I didn't need it! How we moved from Indian house crow to discussion to Tour guide English training is sickening!

You have your way, I have my way. As  on the right way, the only way it probably doesn't exist.

Asante!
Gitau.

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On Nov 24, 2013, at 1:44 PM, "Mohamed Ismail" <afriventures@usa.net> wrote:

Wa Gitau,

Maybe I should write to you in Kiswahili? This is what I wrote regarding garbage in Mombasa which is rarely collected by the Municipal authorities:

"It is also important to eliminate these crows from the Kenya coast, as they all originate mainly from Mombasa and thrive on uncollected garbage."

To thrive on UNCOLLECTED GARBAGE has one simple meaning. IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE ONUS OF CLEANING THE TOWN SHOULD BE DONE BY CROWS. UTALII COLLEGE IS THERE TO TEACH THOSE WHO WORK AS GUIDES TO IMPROVE THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE; PERHAPS YOU WILL DO WELL TO GO THERE AND GET AN EXTRA DIPLOMA?

Mohamed Ismail.  


The first panacea for a mismanaged nation is inflation of the currency; the second is war. Both bring a temporary prosperity; both bring a permanent ruin. But both are the refuge of political and economic opportunists.
~Ernest Hemingway. 





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Subject: Re: [KENYABIRDSNET] House Crows have reach Makindu


I find it a little bit funny that now we are even blaming Indian house crow for uncollected garbage within Mombasa. Reproduction is probably the overall purpose of life in any species in this universe. I think the Indian house crow is just trying to survive just like any other creature. I find it hard to agree on any form  of culling. Why should a species be victimized for it success in reproduction. Human beings impacts in creating havoc in world environment is the greatest but here we are blaming some bird spp. Man has failed as a keeper of this great planet hence it's high time we leave nature alone! 

Regards! 
Gitau. 




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On Nov 24, 2013, at 2:36 AM, "Mohamed Ismail" <afriventures@usa.net> wrote:

   

Dear Fleur,

Yes, you are so right--action needs to be taken and soon! It is also important to eliminate these crows from the Kenya coast, as they all originate mainly from Mombasa and thrive on uncollected garbage and the worsening situation there with multiple issues regarding governance. As Brian Finch once said, "Mombasa stinks" is so very true. The Makindu exercise cannot be enduring, if the source is not nipped in the bud!

I recall the old Cap 376 of the Wild Animals Protection Act for the Kenya Game Department. A separate one for Kenya National Parks was also available in the very early 1960's. Anyone aware of the new Wildlife Act and whether it includes protection of alien species? The old ordinance/s did not mention anything about introduced species. One was therefore free to use any means to destroy or eliminate any pest using whatever means, including a flame-thrower!

While it is prudent to seek help and consent from KWS, I know that they are at times not very helpful. A case in point was the outbreak of Dengue Fever in Mombasa caused by Vervet monkeys. A researcher from Chiromo's Primate Centre sought assistance from the KWS director at the coast to help eliminate Vervet monkeys from a residential area of Mombasa island. He also requested if that was not possible, then the monkeys should be trapped and relocated to an area away from humans. Sadly assistance was not forthcoming! The director's response was that he could not decide and had to get approval from Nairobi!

Mohamed Ismail.




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Subject: Re: [KENYABIRDSNET] House Crows have reach Makindu


Dear all

We are talking to each other,. Is anyone talking to KWS at Kiboko or the management of the Sikh temple at Makindu?

Wishing you good birding, Fleur

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Received: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 12:48:03 PM EAT
From: Adam Scott Kennedy
Subject: [KENYABIRDSNET] House Crows have reach Makindu
Hi All,
  
I just received a call from Brian Finch who is on tour with clients.
    
He has just seen House Crows at the Sikh Temple in Makindu. This could be their penultimate bastion before reaching Nairobi so if anyone (especially the staff at the Museum) has the means to 'control' these birds, then please do now quickly.
    
Cheers for now
Adam