From: Alan Johnston <alanj46@yahoo.com>
Date: 2013-03-14 13:57
Subject: Re: [KENYABIRDSNET] Re: [tanzaniabirds] Secretarybird AGAIN

I also saw it occasionally on farms in the Eldoret/Lessos/Kitale area between 1968 and 1971.

Alan Johnston

--- On Thu, 3/14/13, Clive Mann <clivefmann@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Clive Mann <clivefmann@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [KENYABIRDSNET] Re: [tanzaniabirds] Secretarybird AGAIN
To: "Darcy Ogada" <darcyogada@yahoo.com>
Cc: "kenyabirdsnet@yahoogroups.com" <kenyabirdsnet@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 12:33 PM

 

From 1969-1975 it was occasionally seen on farms in the Eldoret/Lessos/Kitale areas of Kenya.

Clive Mann

On 14 March 2013 12:54, Darcy Ogada <darcyogada@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

Hi all,
While I won't chime in on the grey-headed sparrow debate, I have a comment on the Secretarybird's status in Kenya. 
 
I would say the range of this species has contracted (and by extent its population), such that you very rarely find it outside of protected areas in Kenya.  I don't have Britton's Atlas.  Zimmerman mentions it could be found in farmland.  Old records of it being seen at Mtito Andei and elsewhere on Mombasa Rd.  Our four years of road survey data (which of course is nothing compared to Brian's years of road 'surveys') show 28 records with only 1 sighting outside of an officially protected (or otherwise 'protected' area, e.g. Laikipia) area.
 
I have seen nests that never produce any young, though not sure it's related to human interference.  And I would guess that breeding outside of 'protected' areas is nil in Kenya.
 
I hope others will say more...
 
Best, Darcy
 
Darcy Ogada, PhD
Assistant Director of Africa Programs, The Peregrine Fund
Chair, Raptor Working Group of Nature Kenya
P.O. Box 1629
00606 Nairobi, Kenya
+254-722-339366

From: Brian Finch <birdfinch@gmail.com>
To: tanzaniabirds@yahoogroups.com
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Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 12:28 PM
Subject: [KENYABIRDSNET] Re: [tanzaniabirds] Secretarybird AGAIN

Dear All,
This is a bit of a sweeping statement, but I think in Kenya we are not
seeing a reduction in numbers and the species is still widespread.
Nairobi Park for instance has three breeding pairs one of which
fledged two young this week.  That said, I think there is no reason
for complacency, and whilst we do have a reasonable population we
should record all individuals, if there is a downtrend, we can monitor
from the start. Lets hope we never see that decline.
Best to all
Brian

On 3/14/13, Marc Baker <marc@ei-tz.com> wrote:
> HI
>
> In northern Tanzania, I wouldn’t consider food supply a problem, you see
> adults even on the outskirts of Arusha. I would imagine that outside of
> protected areas one of the main problems is the vulnerability of the nests
> to people, mainly kids and possibly Pied Crows which continue to increase
> and in our area mob everything!
>
> M.
>
> Marc Baker
> Director
> Ecological Initiatives & Carbon Tanzania
> +255 (0)784448761
> Skype: babaniamh
> www.ei-tz.com
> www.carbontanzania.com
>
>
> On 14 Mar 2013, at 09:50, Neil and Liz Baker wrote:
>
>>
>> many of you will recall that some of us put a hurried note together for
>> CITES on the plight of this bird a year or so ago.
>>
>> following on from this Sally Hofmeyr is writing up what we know for
>> official publication.
>>
>> we are asking ALL of YOU to
>>
>> A. provide any undocumented records hidden in your note books.
>> B. thoughts, even anecdotal ones, on the situation in an area you are
>> familiar with.
>> C. where it no longer occurs but there are historical records ...WHY might
>> it have disappeared ?
>>
>> between us we have all the literature but any personal perspective would
>> be very much appreciated.
>>
>> please write to your group so others see your comments as these often
>> trigger memories and at least nudge others to reply.
>>
>> please cc your msg to Sally at <salhofmeyr@gmail.com>;
>>
>> many thanks
>>
>> Neil
>>
>> Neil and Liz Baker, Tanzania Bird Atlas, P.O. Box 1605, Iringa, Tanzania.
>> Mobiles: +255 785-311298 and +255 784-834273.
>> http://tanzaniabirdatlas.com/
>> Subscribe to: tanzaniabirds-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
>>
>>
>
>


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