From: Brian Finch <birdfinch@gmail.com>
Date: 2013-03-02 10:26
Subject: Re: [tanzaniabirds] Re: [KENYABIRDSNET] RUAHA HORNBILL IN KENYA YET?

Dear John,
Thanks for the information. How sad not to have the image. Keekerok is
a lot closer to Ruaha Hornbill than Northern Red-billed, we shall just
have to keep on trying.
Thanks again
Brian

On 3/2/13, John Dawson <johndawson.jd@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Brian,
>
> Thanks for these comments. Re images of the 1988 bird, I was in fact an avid
> photographer at the time, but sadly that is one image I don't have!
>
> The sighting was not in fact at Cottars, but inside the Reserve, somewhere
> east of Keekorok.
>
> Best regards, John (not Tony) Dawson
>
> On Fri1Mar 2013, at 19:32Friday1/March2013, Brian Finch wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>> Thanks for the response I think you are right about altitude being a
>> probable factor between northern Serengeti and the Mara, but it
>> doesn't explain that we have not had it in the Lake Victoria basin
>> where contiguous vegetation and altitude is identical. On the Tz map,
>> we actually share three squares where they have been recorded in
>> Tanzania, admittedly along the border area it looks quite scarce. If a
>> Racket-tailed Roller can take the plunge, why hasn't a Ruaha
>> Hornbill!? Tony (Dawson) confirming receipt of your email as
>> requested. I don't suppose you have an image of the 1988 bird, I know
>> it was before cameras were invented, but...
>> It's not impossible that at Cottars, especially in drought conditions
>> that a Northern Red-bill could wander in, as much as a Ruaha wandering
>> up.
>> Best to all
>> Brian
>>
>> On 3/1/13, Neil and Liz Baker <tzbirdatlas@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Adam and all
>>>
>>> Altitude is a factor with Grey-breasted Spurfowl (you have a population
>>> of
>>> Red-necked that may help stop our bird) and Fischer's Lovebird (these
>>> birds
>>> love Borassus Palms) and it USED to be with Rufous-tailed Weaver and we
>>> thought with Karamoja Apalis (Acacia drepanolobium).
>>>
>>> so it's not simply altitude but there are vegetation changes with alt
>>> and
>>> you need a geologist to look closely at the soils. There is also the
>>> question of subtle changes in temperature to be considered and perhaps
>>> changes in rainfall.
>>>
>>> Tony, hopefully you have insights into these ecological limits.
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>> Neil and Liz Baker, Tanzania Bird Atlas, P.O. Box 1605, Iringa,
>>> Tanzania.
>>> Mobiles: +255 785-311298 and +255 784-834273.
>>> http://tanzaniabirdatlas.com
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>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Adam Scott Kennedy adamscottkennedy@gmail.com
>>> To: kenyabirdsnet <kenyabirdsnet@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, 1 March 2013, 13:48
>>> Subject: Re: [KENYABIRDSNET] RUAHA HORNBILL IN KENYA YET?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Brian and all,
>>>
>>> This is a bird I was determined to find in the Mara and searched
>>> endlessly
>>> for it, particularly while working close to the southern boundary, but to
>>> no
>>> avail.
>>>
>>> Despite Britton apparently recording it in the Mara, I wonder if
>>> altitude
>>> may be a prohibitive factor?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Adam
>>>
>>> On 1 March 2013 09:08, Brian Finch <birdfinch@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>> Please look at the attached TZ Atlas map for Ruaha Hornbill. It must
>>>> be on our side of the border.
>>>> Has anyone seen a Red-billed Hornbill in the Mara (I certainly
>>>> haven’t), or along our border area near Lake Victoria, if so it must
>>>> be this species, still never recorded for Kenya.
>>>> Please check your records, and any images, you could have a first for
>>>> the country.
>>>> Best to all
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>
>>
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