From: Neil and Liz Baker <tzbirdatlas@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: 2011-04-23 06:50
Subject: Fw: sampling greater flamingo

there is a request here for fresh (ish) feathers from Greater Flamingos for a genetic study of this wide ranging species.
 
is there anyone on these groups that could collect feathers for Julia ? a fresh(ish) dead bird would be preferred, far too many Lesser Flamingo feathers along our lake shores.
 
please contact Julia directly.
 
thanks
 
Neil
 
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----- Forwarded Message ----
From: julia GERACI <julia.geraci@hotmail.fr>
To: Neil Baker <tzbirdatlas@yahoo.co.uk>
Sent: Thu, 21 April, 2011 12:53:29
Subject: sampling greater flamingo

Hi Neil,
I am recontacting about sampling of Greater flamingo feathers in Tanzania.
I am sorry that your project of catching flamingos at Natron's lake couldn't be carried out.
Anyway, I am still interested to get some samples from East Africa to asess levels of genetic diversity and connection between greater flamingo populations at the scale of their whole distribution range. Unfortunatly, I could'nt get some samples from this area yet.
As it is not possible to catch living birds, do you think there would be a way to get feathers from dead individuals or fallen feathers sampled on the ground?
If you know people that are doing field trip near flamingos foraging or breeding areas, could you please pass on my request?
I attached the sampling protocol and can provide needed material.
Many thanks for any help you could provide,
Kind regards,

Julia Geraci, PhD student



> From: childress@btinternet.com
> To: tzbirdatlas@yahoo.co.uk; bechet@tourduvalat.org
> CC: swmtanzania@gmail.com; dmh@leicester.ac.uk; remi.wattier@u-bourgogne.fr; julia.geraci@hotmail.fr; matthew@natural-light-films.com
> Subject: Re: sampling greater flamingo
> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 09:22:40 +0100
>
> Hi Neil,
>
> Thanks for keeping me in the loop on this.
>
> Cheers,
> Brooks
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "tanzaniabirdatlas" <tzbirdatlas@yahoo.co.uk>
> To: "Arnaud Béchet" <bechet@tourduvalat.org>
> Cc: "John Dominic" <swmtanzania@gmail.com>; "Brooks Childress"
> <childress@btinternet.com>; "David Harper" <dmh@leicester.ac.uk>; "Rémi
> Wattier" <remi.wattier@u-bourgogne.fr>; "Julia Geraci"
> <julia.geraci@hotmail.fr>; "Matthew Aeberhard"
> <matthew@natural-light-films.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:35 PM
> Subject: Re: sampling greater flamingo
>
>
> > Dear Arnaud
> >
> > All the flamingo studies have been delayed due to funding issues.
> >
> > I copy this email to David Harper at Leicester who may be the first person
> > at Natron in the near future.
> >
> > I also cc Brooks and John Balerain at the Wetlands Unit of the Wildlife
> > Division in Dar es Salaam for their information and interest.
> >
> > Appologies for not being more useful at this stage.
> >
> > Neil
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Arnaud Béchet" <bechet@tourduvalat.org>
> > To: "Neil Baker" <tzbirdatlas@yahoo.co.uk>
> > Cc: "Matthew Aeberhard" <matthew@natural-light-films.com>; "Julia Geraci"
> > <julia.geraci@hotmail.fr>; "Rémi Wattier" <remi.wattier@u-bourgogne.fr>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 12:14 PM
> > Subject: sampling greater flamingo
> >
> >
> >> Dear Neil,
> >>
> >> You will find the first results of Julia Geraci's genetic study of the
> >> Greater flamingo in the document attached. It highlights the importance
> >> of getting feather / blood samples from East Africa to better understand
> >> the historical dynamics of the population over its range. Furthermore
> >> Julia has now developped a few microsatellites which should allow to
> >> provide a picture of the present movements of greater flamingos among
> >> the different sub populations.
> >>
> >> Therfore we remain very interested in obtaining samples from Tanzanian
> >> Greater flamingos. I understood from our previous discussions that this
> >> could be rather easily done at the occasion of the catch of flamingos
> >> for a large project you were planning on Lake Natron. Is the funding of
> >> this project now secured? If yes, is it still planned to catch greater
> >> flamingos? If no, we may be able to find some funding to help with such
> >> a catch. But we have to prepare this now so that we can get the samples
> >> on time regarding the tight schedule of Julia's PhD thesis.
> >>
> >> Please, let us know what are your ideas for getting these samples.
> >>
> >> Best wishes,
> >>
> >> Arnaud
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Arnaud Béchet
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