From: AYUB KARIUKI <ayubkariuki@hotmail.com>
Date: 2010-08-29 11:41
Subject: RE: [KENYABIRDSNET] help with ID

Dear Adam, Dear Dieter,
Thanks you for your kind photos of Parasitic weavers. Coming back to your comments, I would 100% denounce your Fan tailed widow???
Kindly see Dieter emials once again, his says all images taken in 21st July 2010 Nairobi National Park. Have you ever seen a fan tailed in Nairobi ref; your distribution of birds ?? this is a western Kenya species you are talking off. Kindly allow me not to comment further as I had given my opnion and will be happen to be corrected in a better way than this.
 
To Adam, give me a call when you are in Nairobi and I can join you at the park you challenge me there live as I believe, I was sure on myself.
 
Good luck to all of us,as we try to sort out the images.
 
Regards
Joseph
 

To: ayubkariuki@hotmail.com
CC: dietervandenheuvel@yahoo.com; kenyabirdsnet@yahoogroups.com; johannes.buckens@telenet.be
From: adamscottkennedy@googlemail.com
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 10:15:17 +0300
Subject: Re: [KENYABIRDSNET] help with ID

 
Hi Dieter, Joseph et al.,

There are some interesting images here and I think that Joseph
certainly has some of the IDs correct. However, for my money, I'd
suggest the following;

1. Fan-tailed Widow rather than White-winged, based on the lack of any
white on the greater coverts. The bird on the far left looks
especially good for this species.
2. Parasitic Weaver (aka. Cuckoo Finch) - general jizz plus the head
shape and bill with flat-to-slightly concave culmen are indicative
3. Red-billed Quelea on the left but others are different, and
probably Parasitic Weaver
4.5. - Difficult to see but I'd put money on Parasitic Weaver and not
Holub's which is a brighter and often bulkier bird.
6. Again, looks like a worn Parasitic Weaver to me. Red-billed Quelea
would show a brighter red bill in most plumages, except immature when
it can be quite dull.
7.8. - Red-collared Widow - moulting male
9. I'm not convinced these are Village Weavers. The bird on the right
shows a pale eye and blue legs, suggesting female Lesser Masked
Weaver. I would expect bill and body to look more robust if they were
Village Weavers.
10. The same bird as the one on left in image 9 I guess? Dark eye
suggests an immature but this bird shows pinkish legs rather than
blue. The trickiest one for me!

I have attached two images of Parasitic Weaver taken in the Mara in
June for you to compare with the birds in images 2,4,5,6. I hope this
helps.

More feedback from the fundis required I think!

Cheers and best,

Adam
Naibor Camp, Masai Mara

On 24/08/2010, AYUB KARIUKI <ayubkariuki@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Dieter,
> I had a quick look at your photos and sorry that you had this difficult
> times in 16days safari Below are my opnion on the images.
> 1) Spec -1 is female White Winged Widowbird
> 2) Spec 2 is female Red Collared Widowbird
> 3) Spec 3 is Red Billed Quelea good one to iD on the left top.
> 4) Spec 4 & 5 is Not clear Images but looks like Holub's Golden Weaver
> female.
> 5) Spec 6 is FemaleRed billed Quelea
> 6) Spec 7 &8 are Non breeding Red Collared Widowbird
> 7) Spec 9 &10 Juv. Black headed (village) Weaver.
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> see what others may think about them.
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> Regards
> Joseph
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> I'm Dieter Van den Heuvel from Belgium. I am a birdwatcher that visited
> Kenya for 16 days last month. We visited Kenya with a group of 6 birders
> that had absolutely no experience with the Kenian birdlife, so I guess you
> can imagine it was very difficult for us to identify some of the birds that
> were in winter plumage. We took pictures of most of the birds we saw, but
> for some we don't succeed in pointing out the species. That's why we are
> looking for some ID-help. I hope I'm not "abusing" this e-mail list and if
> so please please let me know and ignore my e-mail. I was just hoping that
> someone could help us with identifying the birds that are in the attached
> images. All pictures were taken on July 21st in Nairobi NP.
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